Steph interviews Elise Loehnen, the author of the instant New York Times bestseller On Our Best Behavior and host of Pulling the Thread, a podcast focused on pulling apart the stories we tell about who we are—and then putting those threads back together. Steph and Elise discuss the ways patriarchy impacts how women see themselves and what they police in each other. They discuss how the seven deadly sins impacts moms. Elise shares how the fear of sloth, gluttony, and envy leads to burnout, lack of confidence, feeling guilty about rest, and our relationship with our bodies before,during, and after pregnancy. We begin to dismantle these negative beliefs and thought patterns to help moms feel more freedom and joy in motherhood.